25
Jun
08

Computer/Video Poll – PLEASE HELP!

I can’t figure out how to create a poll so please, PLEASE fill in the comments section about what your church uses:

  1. Computer: Apple or PC?
  2. Presentation software: ProPresenter or MediaShout or EasyWorship or what?
  3. Media Intensity of your church?
    5Multiple background screens, camera cranes in the audiences, videos made in house, local news stations come to you when the power goes out to broadcast the 5:00 news
    4
    3Running some sort of lyric presentation for songs, dabbling in video loops for backgrounds but mainly doing a killer job of stellar still images
    2
    1Video presentation? Doesn’t everyone still use transparencies?

I think I know what the “right” answers are but I’ve become the droning white noise that gets ignored around our staff. I want to make sure I’m still thinking objectively and rationally and would LOVE to know what other churches are using and doing with their video resources.

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27 Responses to “Computer/Video Poll – PLEASE HELP!”


  1. June 25, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Apple…

    ProPresenter…

    4…

  2. June 25, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    We use…
    PC, Word No presentation software other than occasional PowerPoint, 0 no Video equipment in main sanctuary only in youth church.

  3. June 26, 2008 at 12:00 am

    PC, MediaShout, 4

  4. June 26, 2008 at 12:12 am

    PC
    Song Show Plus 7
    4

    but the way to go is
    MAC
    Propresentor
    4-5

  5. June 26, 2008 at 12:31 am

    PC
    MediaShout
    4

    but I agree with klampert… go with a Mac, I’ve heard incredible things about ProPresenter (from many), and 4-5 is the way to go if you can get away with it!!!

  6. 6 Brad
    June 26, 2008 at 7:04 am

    Mac
    ProPresenter
    5

  7. June 26, 2008 at 7:10 am

    1. PC (Not my choice)

    2. MediaShout

    3. #3 – Ever since visiting Mars Hill Bible Church (Rob Bell) we’ve eliminated motion/loop backgrounds and simply have white lyrics on a black screen. On Easter we take it up a notch, but at least for now we’ve been focusing on the words.

  8. June 26, 2008 at 7:50 am

    PC
    EasyWorship
    4

  9. June 26, 2008 at 8:06 am

    We use two PC’s one desktop for front Screen at stage, and Laptop for Screen at back of church for stage to view. Both are Win XP and we are running two instances of SongShow Plus. Man, I played with it some last week for our Youth Sunday Service. Pretty intuitive! And you can get online and download lyrics from their server. Of course you need a CCLI licence. Hey Connor check out my blog . . . http://www.jasonmdurham.com and let me knnow your thoughts.

  10. June 26, 2008 at 8:34 am

    Apple

    ProPresenter

    4….. We produce our own commercials in house, some light green screen work, motion loops through the worship, announcements like watching movie trailers at the theater

  11. June 26, 2008 at 9:09 am

    I’m all Apple…but in our worship center (grrr….)
    we use PC
    we use PowerPoint
    and I’d give us a 3 on your scale…

  12. June 26, 2008 at 9:38 am

    i am a mac user and pc user but i would say get the mac if you are getting a software that has version for it. the only trouble is you have to be able to show Powerpoint docs for the times when someone wants to present using your system. Of course, there is Parallels/Fusion or even bootcamp for those times.

    as far a presentation software is concerned, just don’t go overboard in all the background effects and transitions. they are nice to have and if used properly, can be very effective. i’ve been to some churches which have a very grand presentation and it takes away the essence of what we are doing, which is worship.

  13. June 26, 2008 at 9:50 am

    Of the big category “5” media intensity churches I’ve attended (at one of which I worked for a summer), they used Macs for the media production, using the Adobe Creative Suite of products (i.e., Premiere), but those were also dedicated machines. You don’t use your video-editing computers for web browsing.

    For the “presentation” software they did not use anything listed above, like MediaShout, but instead used television-studio-grade software, the sort of thing that can show news tickers and the like and handle the live video, and which runs on Windows or Macs or, for some Avid software, Linux only.

    The reason that Macs are generally more accepted as the de-facto platform for video editing is the widespread use of Final Cut Pro, which can only run on a Mac. Avid is still the main software used in most professional video/film shops, but is out of the price range of most any church. The Mac vs Windows argument comes down to whether you like one OS better than the other, unless you use FCP, as Windows computers are always going to give you better bang-for-the-buck on hardware, which will make the most difference, otherwise, in making the computer fast, which, of course, can significantly reduce the time it takes to actually do video editing.

  14. June 26, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Apple

    ProPresenter

    3.5- We run loops behind the lyrics almost all the time but we are still working on getting live video and more screens.

  15. June 26, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Mac / PC depending on the room.

    Easy Worship

    3.578

  16. June 26, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Just when I was going to ride Matt for not committing to either a 3 or a 4, Bryan you come along and beat him with a 3.578. Ya’ll are killing me πŸ™‚

  17. June 26, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    1. Apples in all offices except secretaries. Can’t get her to switch. Unfortunately, we’re on PC in the auditorium because of our presentation software.

    2. Presentation software is Sunday Plus. It pretty much stinks, but the budget does not exist to switch to anything else.

    3. I’d say we’re a solid 3 on your scale. Your description fits us pretty closely. Not really where I want to be, but there it is.

  18. 19 swcp
    June 27, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    iMac
    ProPresenter
    4
    let my words be few…

  19. June 27, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    PC

    Media Shout

    3 – This is intentional like Mudppy’s talking about. I’d actually like to take us down to a like a 2.3 or so and just do simple really well instead of complex really poorly.

  20. 21 Jimbo
    June 28, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    My local church is your local church so I don’t have anything to contribute on the minutia of what hardware/software we run at the sanctuary FOH.

    But… I’m just back from vacationland including much prayer and meditation and am checking up on all my favorite blogs and can’t let this one go by without a comment…

    I don’t view worship things such as these as “right vs wrong…” Mac vs PC, software power vs simplicity, media intensity vs message a natural.

    Isn’t it possible that there is not a simple “right” answer to how a heart felt love of God worship service should look or sound. Granted, there is probably a simple wrong; however, I do not think wrong shows up in the PC model or software package at the FOH.

    Go with what God has planned for your setting. If a Mac’s what you should have, you’ll have one. If a Dell is plugged in and running media shout, I think Peter or Paul would be blown away by black & white images with scripture projected before a small group of believers in worship. What would Paul say about “white noise” disputes in Romans?

  21. June 28, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    Ah Jimbo, if it were that simple. I have asked this question here (and other forums) out of curiosity to see what others use. I figured this would again give me a good indication of my assumptions of “right vs. wrong” thinking. It appears my data supports my assumptions, (that will be conclusive when I collect it all tomorrow.) Sure, there’s not a “right vs. wrong” clear cut answer. You could have driven to Florida in a 1985 Ford Econoline Van with 200k miles on it. You would have gotten there fine. You would have made it back fine. You would have paid an arm and a leg for gas. The AC might have gone out on you a few times? You might have had to even turn off the AC going up a hill. But you would have gotten there and for a majority of the time worked just great. If you were in a position and needed to buy a new vehicle though would you again purchase a 1985 Ford Econoline here in 2008? Would you even purchase such a large and robust vehicle with all the advances in the car industry? If in fact size was no longer the driving force and it was just you and the Mrs. would you not perhaps see that there would be a more suitable option that would most appropriately suit your needs?
    πŸ™‚
    I think you’d find there would be a different mode of transportation needed. You just have to convince your backseat drivers to change vehicles! HAHAHA.

  22. June 29, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    I hate you Jimbo. I’m ashamed of my arrogance and now of my lack of faith πŸ™‚
    From now on you are my Master Po! You’ve been the best friend since we joined River and an incredible Christian example.
    Just go easy on me at group on Wednesday! Hahaha.

  23. 24 Jimbo
    July 1, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    Leave little room for shame as Paul points out…” no one is righteous… not even one.” ( that includes Master Po )God speaks to us through one another as far as we exercise a discerning ear.

    I like our discussions and we learn from one another. All we need is love… all we need is love… all we need is love, love… love is all we need… that could be a song.

  24. July 1, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    I just tallied the results of my inqueries here and on the various forums. Interesting results. Hopefully I’ll get them up here soon.

  25. 26 bitringer
    August 31, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    I work with 2 small town churches

    PC Windows XP Pro on both

    Media Shout 3.5x on both; Very easy to use and get up to speed;

    Latest versions do a better job motion background, music queues (CD, DVD, video clips) and powerpoint, word imports work great; excellent presentation capabilities and wide range of queue types; very affordable; also can use live video feeds and quad video output control


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